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This is an excellent video by Living Hope Ministries about Mormonism. In debunking some of the Mormon beliefs, it presents some interesting info on biblical truths. It is long but well worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1mFdO1wB08

I love the way this movie shows that the bible and the events the bible records happened in history and there is historical evidence that supports its teachings.

Another thing that strikes me as familiar is the way the Mormon leader (the white haired guy) placidly defends the Mormon beliefs-- It is kind of creepy the way he smiles.

The Mormon reliance on a feeling regarding the truth of the book of Mormon reminds me of my relying on a feeling--when listening to the OALC preachers. Over time that feeling appeared less and less frequently and the doubts more and more.

While I was there I had a division between my heart and my head. What I believed in my heart, I could not believe in my head. I could see many things that were wrong--and naively believed the elders would correct them when they came.

I am so thankful that God brought me out of that place and showed me that He is as much evident in the "real world" as He is the the "church" world.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: SCRIPTURAL AUTHORITY

The bible is the word of God, and it is complete.

In 632,or there abouts, Muhammad proclaimed that he was a prophet and that he had received additional revelations from God. He did not deny that the bible was God's word, but said he had a newer revelation. This was the beginning of Islam. Islam is a religion of laws. It's believers must obey the laws to please God.

In 1814, or thereabouts, Joseph Smith proclaimed that he was a prophet and had received additional revelations from God. He wrote these down in the book of Mormon. He did not deny the bible was God's word, he said he had a newer revelation .This was the beginning of Mormon Church. it is a religion of rules. It's believers think they must obey the rules to please God.

In 1849, or thereabouts, Lars Laestadius wrote down some sermons. His followers claimed that they were new revelations from God. They did not deny that the bible was God's word, but said the sermons were a newer revelation. This was the beginning of the Old Apostolic Lutheran Church.
It's teachings of grace are overshadowed by its external regulations.
Its believers think they must obey the preachers to please God.

When the bible ceases to be the authority, the devil takes over.Satan is apparently fond of making people miserable with rules. God's word is the one thing that Satan can not stand against. On our own we are easy targets for him.

What if God did decide to reveal something further? The last chapter of the bible says "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes away from this book of prophecy, God will takeaway from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city which are described in this book." I deduce from this that God's word is complete that it would not be a good idea to add to it. A person who believes otherwise is probably being led by a spirit that is not of God.

This site contains the outtakes from the Bible vs. Book of Mormon video that Soapbox posted about above. They are really good... The only reason they didn't make it into the final video was because the video was running rather long already.

http://www.lhvm.org/vid_bonus.htm

I highly recommend these!

Hi Lucy. Thanks. One important point about Mormons. They got their new book and idea of the gospel from angelic beings. However, the Apostle Paul says "Though we or an angel preach any other gospel, let him be accursed." That pretty much settles the Mormon issue with me. Of course, theirs is a gospel of works also.

Absolutely. It really helped me to watch that video because not only did they prove the Book of Mormon to be false, but that the Bible was absolutely true! Have you watched it?

Nope, haven't watched it. I "watch" enough of Mormonism around me since there are many where I live. There's a temple here and many new neighborhoods have lds chapels. It looks real quaint and nice and pious with the lds steeples rising up above the new homes, but we don't judge truth by this kind of image.

If you have time, though, it's well worth taking a peek at. You don't even have to watch the whole thing. But it does provide a solid platform to stand on when you witness to your Mormon friends.

Thanks. The other point which concerns me, is the Mormons discuss a lineage among american indians and hebrew people, but the DNA doesn't show this. Also, with languages being my hobby, the native american indians' languages are not related to hebrew. Good points. Thanks for the info.

Interesting you should mention the DNA... in fact, there is no trace WHATSOEVER of any Hebrew DNA connections with the Native Americans like the Mormon church claims. It's a well-known and widely accepted scientific fact (in both Christian and secular circles) that the Native Americans are related to groups from northeastern Asia.

This is true, Lucy. American Indian languages show similarities to Altaic and other northern and central asian languages.

That's really interesting! I didn't know that about the languages. Thank you for sharing!

Another thing to think about: Considering the implied(by Mormons) impact and magnitude of the Book of Mormon message and history, there should be record of this in the literature or folklore of American Indians, but as far as I know, all they really traditionally believed in was a great spirit, nothing about God and His son.

And in fact, when Native Americans are confronted by Mormons who say "this is the real history of your race, you're a Lamanite," they don't buy it. Check this out... These are Native American responses to the Book of Mormon...

http://www.lhvm.org/vid_bonus_12_broad.htm

A good book out there is called Speaking The Truth In Love To Mormons by Mark Cares. I've actually met him before, because he is(still?) a local pastor not far from me.